Is there a way to see when there are changes to the DB, when you are upgrading from one version to another?

For Umbraco questions you should post in #1125392773038755890 not in the News channel 😉 But to answer your question, yes whenever a migration is added it is in this file: https://github.com/umbraco/Umbraco-CMS/blob/2b629693950818865a9f8ee316ec7bc1538d287f/src/Umbraco.Infrastructure/Migrations/Upgrade/UmbracoPlan.cs#L10

Was about to post the same but with link to the contrib branch 😉 https://github.com/umbraco/Umbraco-CMS/blob/contrib/src/Umbraco.Infrastructure/Migrations/Upgrade/UmbracoPlan.cs#L10

A migration doesn't necessarily equal a database change, but they often do. You can go check out the migrations one by one to see whether they do any db change or not.

I still doesn't see a "easy" way to upgrade live sites. Without having to pull the site down, do the upgrade and then put it back up.

That's exactly how you would do it yes. 🙂

Good to know 🙂

Apparently you can save "millions" of hours if you set it up properly (I think they were exaggerating a little bit) https://discord.com/channels/869656431308189746/1128282358597038100/1128586467283828807

I guess it depends where you host things. In Azure you could utilize deployment slots and effectively have zero downtime.

We are currently hosting the sites on a server with Plesk. it's works very well, but again the upgrade procedure isn't as easy as the Wordpress sites we are hosting 😆

Wouldn't the only difference be that Wordpress downloads the update itself (including unpacking and applying)? Umbraco can also auto update with the unattended install feature turned on - You just need to provide the updated files

@Søren Mastrup I wasn't aware of that 🙂 that sounds like the way to go. and thanks again 😉

@Henrik You can read more about it here: https://docs.umbraco.com/umbraco-cms/reference/configuration/unattendedsettings

Of course I should note that we offer something called Umbraco Cloud, you might have heard of it, the security patch will be applied for you. 😇

😮

> auto update with the unattended install feature turned on You still need to upgrade the site locally and push the upgrade. Yes, unattended makes it a bit easier, but the nature of dotnet is not such that we can download an update and apply it automatically, unfortunately.

This is also how I have experienced it 🙂

Yes, upgrade the Umbraco Nuget package an notice that you don't get the upgrade installer screen 😅

But with a few steps this can be handled rather easy. For example I just need to update the

PackageReference

in my project and the push it to my repo - Then my pipelines takes over and deploys it.

Yes, so you upgrade locally (update

PackageReference

) and then push the upgrade 😉 Different wording but that's what I meant!