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I've been meaning to move away from Chrome-based browsers forever now, but Firefox just doesn't cut it for 2 important reasons: 1. I make extensive use of Progressive Web Apps and FF doesn't support them (there is an extension but it sucks.. if I have Gmail open in a PWA and click a link, the link opens inside that PWA windows and not in the browser.. useless, that is not a PWA, just an different browser window) 2. Vertical tabs, I love vertical tabs, again there's FF extension but.. I can't get rid of the huge box that has the extension name in it and does nothing.. So I today I stumbled upon Floorp (I know.. what's in a name)... and it actually seems.. good?! https://floorp.app/en
Has anyone else tried this? Vertical tabs are fine and PWA's work great. I would love to group tabs like in Edge, but that's not something they're willing to work on as it is proving to be difficult. Memory usage is quite a bit higher than Edge, but I have enough to spare, so I don't mind very much (30 tabs open, sitting at 2GB memory used). I'm impressed so far!
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Forgetting the UI/UX, in terms of actually implementing the web's various APIs, Chromium is the most feature complete, by a country mile. Followed by Safari.
I find it wild that we talk about web browsers this way. We have standards for HTML, CSS and JavaScript. But there doesn't exist anywhere a 100% feature complete implementation of a web browser. Can you name another UI programming language that doesn't have a reference implementation? Can you name one that even has more than one implementation? Oh how I wish the browsers could standardise, even if on just a single rendering engine.
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I may be being a bit too harsh here, but the first thing to leap out at me on that Floorp website is the use of a 2.5mb+ 1920 pixel wide PNG image to show in a small thumbnail image...
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Agreed on the browser engine technology which should be open and contributed to by all vendors. I love the chrome engine but with the recent news of google making it a lot more difficult to avoid their (specifically THEIR) ad-tech, it is a concern that there is a single company that controls most of the webclients. That said, Firefox can only exist because of the billions that Google gives them.. But at least it's competition and not a single point of failure.
lol well yeah that is some BS right there 😅
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Oh good, but so did all the privacy violations yeah? 😅
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For the PWA extension in Firefox I'm fairly certain there's an option to open external links in the default browser (haven't used the extension in ages so I might be misremembering)
Yeah. I recently switched from Firefox to Librewolf because of them enabling ad tracking by default, and them probably going to enable more of that stuff by default in the future
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I really get that they need to make money somehow, independently from Google.. and while I and a few other people would love to pay a subscription, it's not going to be enough by far.
After sending them a GitHub issue about it, they've now fixed that to being a more manageable 215k webp file 👍
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